Meet the people walking with you
We’ve been in the trenches of ministry too, and we know that leading others often starts with tending to your own soul.
Founding Partner
Executive Coach & Spiritual Director
Lead Mentor
Cohort Facilitator & Psychology Consultant
Director of Coaching
I know what it feels like to wonder if your heart can keep up with the demands of your calling. My goal is to help you find a rhythm that feels both honest and sustainable.
I spend my time at the intersection of psychology and spiritual health, walking alongside leaders who are ready to trade performance for presence and radical honesty.
Nonprofit Leadership Specialist
Burnout shouldn't be the cost of making a difference. I'm here to help social impact leaders build the resilient, soul-aligned life they really need to thrive.
Our Heart & Why We’re Here
Let’s be honest: leading a church or a nonprofit is hard, and it often feels like you have to perform all the time. At Surface to Soul, we’ve been there. We created this community because we saw too many good leaders burning out while trying to keep up appearances. We’re here to help you move past the surface-level metrics and reconnect with your own soul. When you lead from a place of spiritual integrity, everything changes—not just for your organization, but for you too.
What you’ll actually get:
Real space to breathe and process without judgment.
Authentic community with peers who truly "get it."
No buzzwords—just grounded practices for your daily life.
What Makes This Different
Integrated Wisdom
Sacred Cohorts
Radical Honesty
We don't just talk about leadership; we look at the psychology and spirituality behind it. It's about being healthy inside, not just appearing successful outside.
You aren't meant to carry this weight alone. Our groups provide a safe harbor with other leaders who walk your path and understand your burdens.
We drop the masks. In this space, you can say the things you can't say anywhere else, making room for genuine healing and new perspectives.